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  •  kayoko
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Re: Sport Corner ( World Cup 2010 )
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If and only if Arsenal fall to Chelsea though I doubt it, we won't talk much Pips. We are not about to get beat 3 times in the last 3 outings against the Blues. Not many changes from last year, but Arsenal fields a much different squad. We have a strong squad so they are no excuses. The 6-0 win over Braga proves Wenger's seriousness about winning the league and CL. CL is the only trophy that has eluded Wenger during his tenure as Arsenal manager. Usually a forgiving type and tends to walk in matches early, Wenger never let up and sent a simple statement to other clubs who will fall in front of Arsenal's path: beware. You saw the selflessness and class of Fabregas passing up a hat trick for Vela's second. Cesc hasn't let his denied move to Barca over the summer affect his play. As captain, he has gone 100% for Arsenal and brought up these boys to a new dimension possibly. And with the UEFA financial rule on queue waiting to be passed, Fabby should be better off in North London.

A nasty challenge on Valencia it was. His toes basically dug up a foot of dirt. He is a great player indeed..but Park should see more pitch time now.
Posted on: 2010/9/18 2:28
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  •  Pips_Paradise
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Re: Sport Corner ( World Cup 2010 )
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This is very interesting stuff, Kayoko, but there is a major stumbling block, financial governance to share holders, 75% of the UK Premier League clubs are PLC?s public limited companies (Limited liability), UEFA has no recourse in law, these rules are meaningless, UEFA don?t have any legal foundations to regulate a PLC, it?s embarrassing, let?s for a moment look at player salaries, Premier League's clubs will need to reduce player?s salaries by at least 30% in keeping within the UEFA?s financial fair play rules to complete in European competitions, the upshot of this, as Kayoko says is that all clubs completing in the Champions League and Europa will need to break even, and not make persistent losses, from 2012/13.....

Looking at accounts submitted for 2008-09, out of the 20 Premier League clubs' that published, 14 made substantial losses, with Blackburn Rovers summiting a ?3.6m profit after declaring a ?5m loan from the club's owners, a loan that will fly in the face of UEFA?s new rules, however a PLC can speculate to accumulate, raw capitalism tooth and claw, no UEFA rule can circumvent EU finance regulations, any losses incurred that can be attributed to UEFA?s new ?rules? would be redeemable through current legislation when presented to the European court of Justice....I.e. the very definition of statutory law, legislature that has been enacted by a other governing body, or another source of law is judge enacted law or case law, this is another UEFA wet dream.. UEFA have had more than three years to build these ?rules? since president, M Platini, pontificated about the so called danger to football posed by debt, and what he described as rampant commercialism, without consensuses from all and sundry it will be binned like FiFa?s 6-5 rule...

http://www.uefa.com/uefa/footballfirst/protectingthegame/financialfairplay/news/newsid=1494481.html

Of course this will be like music to Kayoko?s ears as Arsene Wenger can barely conceal his delight.............and yes Chelsea and Man C are up sh*t creek without a paddle...

http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Is-Arsenal-boss-Wenger-right-Are-UEFAs-financial-fair-play-rules-good-for-the-game/10451/

Man U v Rangers....more like trench warfare, Rangers rarely crossed over the half way line, so for long periods of time Man U faced all 10 players, who remained stubbornly behind the ball, all the same adopting these tactics took the match into new levels of boredom......Why did Sir Alex make so many changes?, 10 were left out from Saturday draw at Everton, Sir Alex?s 700th Premier league match, Man U was coasting to a win but a series of defensive errors and a lucky defection in the final 3 minutes secured Everton a draw and a point, but Val lots to feel positive about, Nani was a delight to watch and Berbatov is finally looking the business, Rooney wife has forgiven him so he can concentrate on footy, and there some tough matches to come, Sunday, 19 September Premier League against Liverpool, and another Champions League fixture Wednesday, 29 September against Valencia...For Chelsea Saturday, 25 September, a crucial match with Man C, and a real hum dinger against Arsenal, Sunday, 3 October, Kayoko will never speak to me again if Arsenal fall on stony ground .....
Posted on: 2010/9/15 6:46
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  •  SwallowTail
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Re: Sport Corner ( World Cup 2010 )
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Crap what happen to MU they have draw match against Ranger O:0, after draw 3:3 against Everton last week. Their original performance didn't show up BOOOOOOOOOO.
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Posted on: 2010/9/14 21:24
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  •  kayoko
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Re: Sport Corner ( World Cup 2010 )
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Manchester United seemed unwilling to let go of Vidic or Rooney, but they may have to now. UEFA passed new rules effective 2012 saying all clubs competing in Europa and CL must, MUST break an even bankroll otherwise they can not compete. Losing ?150m a season is a big mountain to climb..and with Sir Alex wanting to spend every window, this debt of theirs is only getting bigger. So unless Val you want United to keep winning, you may want to focus on their internal structure management. Oh and did I mention the big Spanish clubs competing in CL are really f***ed. So are Inter. Chelsea too. Arsenal are, but we have just a little problem..Wenger doesn't spend much and we are looking to profit in a few years time if not already. This is going to help the transfer market.

And United today played Scottish club Rangers to kick off the group stage of CL..sluggish is all I can say. Sir Alex I guess underestimated Rangers because he had made 10 changes to his starting XI with Darren Fletcher the only one returning. Rangers had run with fives backs and a lone striker basically forcing United to shoot long range. Darren Gibson had a great chance in the first half, but just missed. Bad news is that United looked for a better result at home, but gave Rangers a point, something they did not have the last time they were in CL.

Arsenal play Braga, a great counter attacking Portuguese club equipped with an astounding 17 Brazilians. much respect Wenger is giving them as he rested Sagna and Clichy preparing for solid defensive play. As for Chelsea, well Pips can say.
Posted on: 2010/9/14 21:23
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  •  Pips_Paradise
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Rooney Terry and Cole are not just role models; all three are profound sporting heroes, I admire their excellence, personal characteristics, all aspire to greatness, through hard work and perseverance.

As athletes and footballers they have few peers, incomparable, to be able to excel at the highest level takes qualities that are worthy of emulation, and evoke awe, all give the public air of respectability provoking universal approval......
So my heart sinks every time I hear or read the sleaze and scandals, I am honestly not a self righteous, pontificating, pious witch, before all the scandals surfaced these Guys were happily married family men, very quick to parade and enforce that image in front of the media to show what wonderfully wholesome family orientated people they are......I naively believe it....Of course Kayoko, dropping all three would be damaging to the national squad, it?s only my opinion on the matter, not some rant at Val, who clearly views these issues differently, I?m sure there are thousands of fans who are more than happy to pat him on the back, and say ?go on son give her one for me? ...... It?s the blatant bare faced hypocrisy......

?England squad must be better role models?, says Wayne Rooney...from Tuesday 2 March 2010....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/mar/02/england-role-models-wayne-rooney

Capello has confirmed he will retire after the Euro 2012

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/news/newsid=1299938.html

Ok weekend Premier League Footy.....Saturday Everton v Man U, Arsenal v Bolton, and West Ham v Chelsea...
It?s seems inevitable that Everton fans will have good poke at Rooney predicament, as much as for his scouser heritage than his personal issues....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8983208.stm

Arsenal has the Van Persie ankle injury and Walcott?s injury from England?s Euro qualifier last Tuesday against the Swiss to deal with, while Ancelotti has hit out at media ?intrusion in football? only for Roman Abramovich to brief against his own manager, warning that he made his feelings perfectly clear last February about players off-field conduct , which has had serious implications to their balance sheet, after losing valuable sponsorship, the start of the season has been somewhat of a ?phoney war? for Chelsea with far tougher fixtures on the way .....

Little doubt 2010/11 will be a watershed for premiership clubs...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/feb/20/roman-abramovich-chelsea-players-warned

And BBC news piece..... Carlo Ancelotti hits out at media intrusion in football

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8974298.stm
Posted on: 2010/9/9 6:06
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  •  kayoko
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Re: Sport Corner ( World Cup 2010 )
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But Val, Rooney's problem should be something to be worried about. Can you accept a win from a man who disobeys his own word and responsibility as a role model to youngens throughout? And yes not to mention, their debt problem had not been attended to. Rooney and Vidic were possible departures to pay off an ever increasing debt, but what to the higher ups do? Re-sign Vidic to a long term deal and Rooney soon expected one as big clubs pursue his services. It's not changing Val. Pips was right on the 25 man rule, it was to slow down and control spending in the market for clubs such as United. Who wants to see Manchester United, arguably the world's most popular club, go bankrupt? These are serious times for United supporters. Big spending on quality players(?30m alone for Chicharito), but no selling to relieve cash spent. It may look nice on the outside as they consistently win trophies, but internally it has caused chaos and possibly driven people mad because their debt has increased into an almost unfixable matter. This, Val is not “jibber jabber”.

Pips, the FA expelling Cole, Terry, and Rooney from the national team will do more worse than good. Yes, it helps fix matters and show bad boys like these will be dealt with, but England has reached desparate times in football. They cannot afford any more setbacks. These, like it or not, are high quality players and England needs these boys to play in order for the nation to prosper once again the sport. Maybe a large sum of money along with a few games suspension, dismissal would be like shooting yourself in the foot. People can overcome bad decisions, but millions of people, including yourself Pips have the passion and lust for England to do well in international play. You were losing hope in England..even thinking to a point that it was possible to lose to Bulgaria. Do you realise just how much rides in England doing well? Euros is the perfect time to re-establish themselves as a power nation so they need them.
Posted on: 2010/9/8 22:05
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  •  Pips_Paradise
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Re: Sport Corner ( World Cup 2010 )
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These ?agencies? are commonly referred to as hostess/escort, Kayoko, however not to be mistaken for the hostess clubs/bars found in Japan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_and_hostess_clubs

Little more can be done to protect the riders, such accidents are impossible to prevent, the provision and development of advanced protective safety equipment and materials could reduce the number of injuries, but the fact that the rider is exposed to the obvious risks associated with standing on to a set rubber mounts exposed to the elements, perched on a two wheeled projectile could have something to do with it....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1309217/Japans-Shoya-Tomizawa-dies-shocking-Moto2-crash-San-Marino.html

Sorry Val that ?Jibber Jabber? you refer to..........how does it go ?outside of football? ...is anything but ...Man U stand to lose ?80m over four years ..do you honestly believe that Aon want to be associated with Bonehead Dysfunctional who is prepared to treat his own family like something he?s has found under a rock, please read Aon mission statement.......

Aon & Manchester United...............
?Partnering in tradition, integrity and success?..............that word ?integrity?.....is not ?Jibber Jabber?.........

I would love to see you look Coleen Rooney in the eye and dismiss what has happened as ?Jibber Jabber?.....

http://www.aon.com/unitedin2010/index.jsp

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8081787.stm

http://www.football-marketing.com/2010/08/13/premier-league-shirt-sponsorship-deals-set-record/



Yes Rooney was integral to England success, Rooney's strike after ten or so minutes was all the motivation the squad needed, every single player from Capello to the coach driver praised Rooney for his "professionalism" but Rooney like Terry and Cole are a conundrum at best, however in reality are a serious liability, and Rooney lacklustre performance over the past six months can now be accredited to off field personal problems the root cause to Rooney's apparent mental collapses, the repercussions are yet to be fully realised, and here's a taste of what is to come, Coleen Rooney will categorically rip her husband's heart out both publicly and eventually in the divorce courts, no stone will be left un turned, he's Paul Gascoigne with fewer brain cells, it is just so typical of the feckless FA not to act now and draw a line in the sand, set and make an example, drop Rooney, Terry and Cole, make the mark on what standards of behaviour is expected from a player in a England shirt and do it now.

The sight of Walcott being stretchered off was a huge disappointment and a bitter blow for Arsenal, injuries will play a huge part in how the Premiership season will unfold...Yes kayoko youth and experience, Johnson and Gerrard It a strategy that has so far paid off well.

Adebayor is a has been his contribution has descended into mindless wind ups ......easy meat for Wenger to chew on .....
Posted on: 2010/9/8 7:27
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  •  SwallowTail
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Moto 2 Tomizawa die in horrible crash accident...that is tragic. Maybe he wouldn't die if no bike hit him when he fall from his bike. Now MOTO GP authority discussed about Driver safety after the accident and it should, like what happen to Ayrton Sena F1 more save now.

I'm not following jibber jabber outside football match, all i want is the game. As long my fave club win

Argentine VS Spain match, more like Barca vs Real and Real cant beat them. Still supporting Germany, Germany uber alles
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  •  kayoko
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John Terry's shoulder for Coleen to cry on? Oh God no!! But what got me most was that England has agencies for prostitution. Really?

England has found a young star to fall back on. Like I said, a mixture of youth and experience ensures victory. Capello took heed of this advice and he has pulled two wins scoring 7 goals and has finally put belief back into Pips' soul that England are still contenders. Adam Johnson was questioned by supporters when Capello called him up. Unproven at Man City, a wasted slot on the roster they initially thought. Two goals in two qualifiers and now people are asking if he should be a first-team-must for England. In my opinion, why try to fix what isn't broken? Oh and Rooney FINALLY scored *big sigh of relief, so expect Wayne to score again internationally around this time next year. And Darren Bent scored surprisingly. Why he played in the first place is a whole other question, but fortunately for Capello's sake he scored. No criticism tonight. Is this an easy group or England legit Pips, I can't tell.

Oh...hehe the nerve of that effing bloke called Adebayor. Yet another jibe at Arsenal while his butt is sitting on the bench. Shut that boy up. Arsenal guaranteed rakes in more money every year than City..buying high quality players in bulk doesn't necessarily mean you are a bigger club. Physically, yes they are bigger, but reputation wise, Arsenal are head and shoulders above Man City. Not in the same breath, nowhere near and will never be. At least 15 years behind Arsenal. Win 15 league titles then Adebayor can boast how big his club is, his former club rather in 15 years. Flip off son, Marouane Chamakh is better than you, Carlos Tevez is better than you(that's why Roberto Mancini prefers him up front), and Arsenal are better than Man City. Period. You want proof? We play City twice so we'll prove it. Whether Adebayor is on the bench like always or somehow brown-nosed his way into Mancini's favour, he'll be disappointed...twice.
Posted on: 2010/9/7 21:31
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  •  Pips_Paradise
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Sadly Kayoko ...baby Kai has taken the news very badly....



All joking apart when premier League footballers behave like tarts & slappers, kids ask ?why?s they?ve doing/done that?, Wayne Rooney?s behaviour on the pitch is as suspect as his judgement off the pitch, kids look up to Rooney and aspire to be like him, so it stands to reason Rooney, banking image rights close to ?6m yearly, and a family man to boot, would /should take these responsibilities seriously....Come to think about it, Rooney could done worse, he could asked John Terry to offer Coleen a shoulder to cry on....

When Rooney was biting chunks out the headboard, bashing uglies in-between Jenny gnawing his "bone" in the plush ?300 a night Lowry Hotel, (interesting Rooney booked jiggling Jenny through an agency that promised ?ultimate discretion? after Juicy Jenny was recommended by a ?friend?), you would think that Rooney would figure out he could be being set up...not on your chinny chin chin did he!!!!

Ok back to footy yes I got the Rooney - Defoe partnership seriously bent out of shape, it seems Capello?s patience has paid off, and proves conclusively I will never make a football manager, well girlies have no chance anyway .... lol.....

The Swiss match tonight can't wait ...assuming Rooney has climbed off ..........
Posted on: 2010/9/7 7:24
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