Roscoe wrote:
You know, when you were mentioning how the lyrics are a little bit "younger", it made me realize how similar this song is to Easy Breezy, they're both pretty fluffy and sound mainstream (at least, I think Easy Breezy did at the time it came out). Maybe this is the Easy Breezy of her new album and there's some other radically different stuff on there we haven't heard.

itana1 wrote:
im not sure but i heard that stargate produced this song not utada which is why its so mainstream. If any knows more pls tell me!

sswx2187 wrote:
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itana1 wrote:
im not sure but i heard that stargate produced this song not utada which is why its so mainstream. If any knows more pls tell me!

Probably, it is very rare for a major label to let an artist produce their own music themselves. Some exceptions to this are Hova in a certain case, Pharrell, Kanye, and of course Timbaland.

It's the whole iron fist attitude they have but also most artists are unable to do it themselves.. they need someone to tell them what they do best and how to do it 'better'.

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ALSO, i had my bro listen to it, he said it sounds like something MTV would play

so i HOPE theres a PV, cause itll prolly get on MTV

Not to flame but MTV has become a type of a joke in the industry and if you used to be a fan it would make you very sad today. For anyone who asked what radio it will be played on.. Kiss FM. For the people wondering where they can buy this when it is released, any music rack retailer. Boarders books and music still carries Exodus.. and I saw it at FYEntertainment about three weeks ago.
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Now, this will not be one of my favorite songs.

Not that it is awful.. but its not up to her level. I guess that is something about getting older.. I don't enjoy music with lyrics like this.. it is made to sell to a younger and largely immature American audience. I want to see a more mature and unique UH. I guess that is the cost of breaking in the mainstream.. but Hikki.. why do you have to go mainstream in the USA. I'd much rather see you produce a real work of art, an Exodus 2.0 (remember, "I dont want to crossover between this genre, that genre. Between you and I is where I want to crossover" WTF HAPPENED!!), than this and I think many people my age could agree (i'm not looking to the 17 year olds for support here, no offense but I think some day you might understand where I'm coming from).. that these themes, like cheating, are way too high school don't occur as often as you get older and I'd like to hope people are smart enough to know if she cheats not to go back even if she sings and crys "baby come back to me." because anyone who cheats doesn't know what they want and are not worth your time regardless of what lessons may have been learned because there are millions of other people out there who are going to truly be faithful. Maybe sing about that?

Hikki, if you want to make music that will be listened to for 40 years.. make it something with substance.. and you can do it.. but not like this. I want to see hotel lobby, kremlin dusk, animato but X 10!!!

Its a load of fluff personally, some creative expressions included, but largely something I can't appreciate.

Regardless, I really do enjoy the instrumentals and the beat.

GJ in that respect.. I'm looking for the type of sound you make for my music.. but there is no way to emulate your sound without coming off as a copycat. I guess I need to think outside the box. (but you didn't make this beat, your producer set it up.. right?)

Sorry if anyone finds this hateful. I am not happy with this. But I've found Hikki's singles are far from the best songs on the album so I still have hope.

seraphim wrote:


Hmm...I see your point in wanting her to not want to break into mainstream or why she's even going that way. But I'd have to disagree with infidelity being only a high school issue. Just look at the divorce rate and the most common reason being infidelity. I wasn't jumping for joy that she was singing about this, since I agree, once you've been unfaithful, you're out with no second chances (and to me, cheating is not just sex, even emotional attachment over online chatting I'd consider an affair), I feel that the song carries a sad undertone that shows more of the regrets of a woman who has been unfaithful, and that's a side that hasn't been explored as much in mainstream America (I may be wrong, I really don't follow mainstream but I have a highschooler brother so I pick up enough :P) Also, she has to call for him so much over and over and try all these ways to convince him because its pretty obvious that he's not giving her a second chance ('Can't you see you punished me/More than enough already ')

But then again, I agree with you, I'm not too happy she's singing about it because it seems to add to the "trendy"ness for kids nowadays to throw commitment and faithfulness around like its nothing~ But at least its not promoting infidelity and is instead showing how heartbreaking it really is.

itana1 wrote:
and also, i remember an interview she did and she said that her exodus album was too thick of her colors and style. Thats probably why she decided to make her new english album more mainstream. Correct me if im wrong

Amaterasu wrote:
Being 26, and one of the 'older' (arg!) members of this board here, I do not find that this song is any less relevant. As mentioned, infidelity is a major problem in our society, and people who are married for a long time (15 years and up) are doing just this very same. In this selfish, instant satisfaction type of society, I can only see this problem growing. Is there not that line, "I was too young to see that you were always there for me?". I think that in itself places the lyricist into a frame of being older and more experienced. I enjoy the admittence of guilt, the expression of the fact that the past -cannot- be changed (or forgotten). While the subject matter is something that I don't want to hear from Hikaru (it has me thinking that she's been a bad girl..) I would not call it an immature subject matter by a long shot.

You're also choosing to forget that her music is pop. Japanese pop, but pop. Most songs are aimed at a younger audience. Most songs by her are simple and easy to relate to by every audience. Yes, there are a few gems with deeper and more poetic lyrics, but that is far from comprising a fat core of material.

For the record, I did not enjoy Exodus. I am glad that this is not Exodus 2.0, for my ears and for her career. She still has the tendancy to write some awkward lyrics from what I see in CBTM, but I hope that it will be kept reigned in for the other songs on her album.

Good luck to you Hikaru!