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catseye528 wrote:
if any of you had listened to Exodus, you know she cheated already... Track 6 Tippy Toe anyone...


Tippy Toe was not about her cheating, it's about her being the mistress and fooling around with a man who is married with a family. The only song that she stated she cheated was 'Come Back To Me'

My personal opinion, everyone is taking this a little too seriously. I mean yes cheating is a vary bad thing and it should never have an excuse, but if we was to deny and not accept someone who cheated, we'd be denying half of the world. Utada is just women, a human, we should just listen to the music and not care what she does. I' pretty sure you've all done something that someone would say it's wrong, right? that's the point I'm coming down too, we all make mistakes, just because she's a celebrity doesn't mean we should hate/love her for them, and pay more attention to them.
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Posted on: 2009/4/20 13:38
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BokuWaDevil光 wrote:
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catseye528 wrote:
if any of you had listened to Exodus, you know she cheated already... Track 6 Tippy Toe anyone...


Tippy Toe was not about her cheating, it's about her being the mistress and fooling around with a man who is married with a family. The only song that she stated she cheated was 'Come Back To Me'

My personal opinion, everyone is taking this a little too seriously. I mean yes cheating is a vary bad thing and it should never have an excuse, but if we was to deny and not accept someone who cheated, we'd be denying half of the world. Utada is just women, a human, we should just listen to the music and not care what she does. I' pretty sure you've all done something that someone would say it's wrong, right? that's the point I'm coming down too, we all make mistakes, just because she's a celebrity doesn't mean we should hate/love her for them, and pay more attention to them.


totally right.

this is weird, but i was looking at this thread earlier and thinking about how to a small extent she could be singing CBTM to not just the person she cheated on, but to her fans who just found out this truth as well. you could say that she's telling her fans to "take it easy" on her, to "come back" to her music regardless of her past.

it's a serious stretch, i know, and you're probably looking at this message right now and thinking i'm crazy. but it makes sense in my mind both ways. i don't know why lol.

bottom line: no matter what she's done, realize that she's human, just like us, and makes mistakes, just like we do. it should make everyone happy, in a way, to think that we all have that in common with our dear hikki!
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Posted on: 2009/4/20 13:54
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  •  Eternityluv
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Wow I haven't visited here for like a week cuz of skool and now reading some shocking new...IMO people should relax a bit, why making a fuss. This is not like something that unheard of before; celebrities here in the States (like Madonna) make headline about this same topic so I don't see why we have the right to criticize her.
We're all human so we made mistake every now and then. I'm sure most of us have had cheat or lie before. So it's not fair that we hold it against her.
As a fan, the quality of the artistic works is much more important to me because cuz that's what we all enjoy right. For personal life it doesn't really matter much IMO.
Posted on: 2009/4/20 17:15
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  •  <3_UtadaHikaru_Aijin_<3
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Re: Utada admits to Cheating on Live Japanese Radio
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<3_UtadaHikaru_Aijin_<3 wrote:
why are u guys making such a big deal about hikki cheating??


I was wondering the same thing. All the heated discussions here REALLY scared me,
but I just wanted to share what people in Japan really feel regarding all this...

She hasn't done anything wrong by the Japanese standard.
America seems to be extremely conservative IMO.

In Japan, a lot of celebrities talk about their sex life on TV.
This evening I saw a female celebrity on TV and she said that she needed to have sex 5 times a day.
I thought it was funny and I'm sure most people felt the same way.

I also want to say that drinking is a huge part of our social life and talking about it
is very common. You hear it all the time on TV. Utada isn't the only one who talks about it,
and actually she doesn't even seem such a mighty drinker considering the fact that
she enjoys vodka tonic which is considered to be very light...
She should go for something stronger such as nihonshu(sake)!!!

Utada isn't an aidoru(idol) like Morning Musume... Aidoru are expected to have squeaky clean image,
but Utada is a singer-songwriter and no one expects her to be squeaky clean.

It seems that people on this board don't know much about Japan.


tats what i thought too lolz even tho hikki like to drink, i bet she don't even drink alot
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  •  ayehunny
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Eternityluv wrote:
Wow I haven't visited here for like a week cuz of skool and now reading some shocking new...IMO people should relax a bit, why making a fuss. This is not like something that unheard of before; celebrities here in the States (like Madonna) make headline about this same topic so I don't see why we have the right to criticize her.
We're all human so we made mistake every now and then. I'm sure most of us have had cheat or lie before. So it's not fair that we hold it against her.
As a fan, the quality of the artistic works is much more important to me because cuz that's what we all enjoy right. For personal life it doesn't really matter much IMO.


The thing about Hikki's fans is that a lot claim to be fans of because she's such a lovely person with great personality. This is one main reason why so many love her, it's not only her music you know.

imo, I don't really care if she have a boyfriend, as long as she know as well as the rest of us how to take care of this person.

To say that cheating is OK just because there are tons of other celebs or people in general who does it is just stupid. It's a fcked up statement.

Takke may be right about how the Japanese think about this kind of thing, but to me that does not matter much. Hikki did wrong, there is no more to it. No idea trying to smooth it out with "everyone does it". To me it's unaccepted to do such thing. And as I said before, it does not matter who you are - I'll still not approve of it. If my friends would cheat on their boy/girlfriend I would lose a lot respect for them, even though they're my best friends. This is not how you SHOULD treat others.

This is not from a religous perspective, I'm an atheist. I'm talking about ethics and moral. Common sense.

I can stick with the "we're all just human"-thing though. :)

If you wonder: It's not like this news made me not like her music less. I just feel slightly disappointed.

(This was not necessary only a answer to your post btw, eternityluv ^^)
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Posted on: 2009/4/21 1:44
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ayehunny wrote:
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Eternityluv wrote:
Wow I haven't visited here for like a week cuz of skool and now reading some shocking new...IMO people should relax a bit, why making a fuss. This is not like something that unheard of before; celebrities here in the States (like Madonna) make headline about this same topic so I don't see why we have the right to criticize her.
We're all human so we made mistake every now and then. I'm sure most of us have had cheat or lie before. So it's not fair that we hold it against her.
As a fan, the quality of the artistic works is much more important to me because cuz that's what we all enjoy right. For personal life it doesn't really matter much IMO.


The thing about Hikki's fans is that a lot claim to be fans of because she's such a lovely person with great personality. This is one main reason why so many love her, it's not only her music you know.

imo, I don't really care if she have a boyfriend, as long as she know as well as the rest of us how to take care of this person.

To say that cheating is OK just because there are tons of other celebs or people in general who does it is just stupid. It's a fcked up statement.

Takke may be right about how the Japanese think about this kind of thing, but to me that does not matter much. Hikki did wrong, there is no more to it. No idea trying to smooth it out with "everyone does it". To me it's unaccepted to do such thing. And as I said before, it does not matter who you are - I'll still not approve of it. If my friends would cheat on their boy/girlfriend I would lose a lot respect for them, even though they're my best friends. This is not how you SHOULD treat others.

This is not from a religous perspective, I'm an atheist. I'm talking about ethics and moral. Common sense.

I can stick with the "we're all just human"-thing though. :)

If you wonder: It's not like this news made me not like her music less. I just feel slightly disappointed.

(This was not necessary only a answer to your post btw, eternityluv ^^)


people might think im a dick if i say this but if you ask me, life would be pretty dull without cheating...........
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Posted on: 2009/4/21 1:55
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itana1 wrote:
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ayehunny wrote:
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Eternityluv wrote:
Wow I haven't visited here for like a week cuz of skool and now reading some shocking new...IMO people should relax a bit, why making a fuss. This is not like something that unheard of before; celebrities here in the States (like Madonna) make headline about this same topic so I don't see why we have the right to criticize her.
We're all human so we made mistake every now and then. I'm sure most of us have had cheat or lie before. So it's not fair that we hold it against her.
As a fan, the quality of the artistic works is much more important to me because cuz that's what we all enjoy right. For personal life it doesn't really matter much IMO.


The thing about Hikki's fans is that a lot claim to be fans of because she's such a lovely person with great personality. This is one main reason why so many love her, it's not only her music you know.

imo, I don't really care if she have a boyfriend, as long as she know as well as the rest of us how to take care of this person.

To say that cheating is OK just because there are tons of other celebs or people in general who does it is just stupid. It's a fcked up statement.

Takke may be right about how the Japanese think about this kind of thing, but to me that does not matter much. Hikki did wrong, there is no more to it. No idea trying to smooth it out with "everyone does it". To me it's unaccepted to do such thing. And as I said before, it does not matter who you are - I'll still not approve of it. If my friends would cheat on their boy/girlfriend I would lose a lot respect for them, even though they're my best friends. This is not how you SHOULD treat others.

This is not from a religous perspective, I'm an atheist. I'm talking about ethics and moral. Common sense.

I can stick with the "we're all just human"-thing though. :)

If you wonder: It's not like this news made me not like her music less. I just feel slightly disappointed.

(This was not necessary only a answer to your post btw, eternityluv ^^)


people might think im a dick if i say this but if you ask me, life would be pretty dull without cheating...........

well yeah, then you're (censored)ed up too. xP
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Posted on: 2009/4/21 1:58
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ayehunny wrote:
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itana1 wrote:
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ayehunny wrote:
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Eternityluv wrote:
Wow I haven't visited here for like a week cuz of skool and now reading some shocking new...IMO people should relax a bit, why making a fuss. This is not like something that unheard of before; celebrities here in the States (like Madonna) make headline about this same topic so I don't see why we have the right to criticize her.
We're all human so we made mistake every now and then. I'm sure most of us have had cheat or lie before. So it's not fair that we hold it against her.
As a fan, the quality of the artistic works is much more important to me because cuz that's what we all enjoy right. For personal life it doesn't really matter much IMO.


The thing about Hikki's fans is that a lot claim to be fans of because she's such a lovely person with great personality. This is one main reason why so many love her, it's not only her music you know.

imo, I don't really care if she have a boyfriend, as long as she know as well as the rest of us how to take care of this person.

To say that cheating is OK just because there are tons of other celebs or people in general who does it is just stupid. It's a fcked up statement.

Takke may be right about how the Japanese think about this kind of thing, but to me that does not matter much. Hikki did wrong, there is no more to it. No idea trying to smooth it out with "everyone does it". To me it's unaccepted to do such thing. And as I said before, it does not matter who you are - I'll still not approve of it. If my friends would cheat on their boy/girlfriend I would lose a lot respect for them, even though they're my best friends. This is not how you SHOULD treat others.

This is not from a religous perspective, I'm an atheist. I'm talking about ethics and moral. Common sense.

I can stick with the "we're all just human"-thing though. :)

If you wonder: It's not like this news made me not like her music less. I just feel slightly disappointed.

(This was not necessary only a answer to your post btw, eternityluv ^^)


people might think im a dick if i say this but if you ask me, life would be pretty dull without cheating...........

well yeah, then you're (censored)ed up too. xP



Yep, i probably am maybe because im use to it or something. But in my point of view i think utada being a role model can be narrowed down in to two parts.
Success role model or personality role model
In terms of success i think everyone would like to be like her (not saying being an artist or something but the money way or something else) She is a very good example of being successful as she doesnt have to do things differently when it comes to her working life and her personal life.

However, being a role model in terms of personal life itself would be narrowed down. Utada herself has a really weird personality. She talks to her teddy bear and loves alcohol. This is not accepted by everybody unless you are someone like me who loves alcohol and enjoys casual talks with yourself or maybe even a teddy as well.( yea,i really dont have a life but i enjoy it lol) Now that she has disclosed that she has cheated on someone before, it narrows her ability of being a role model in terms of personal life even more. Im not saying cheating on someone is a good thing but it's not that bad. (like ayehunny said, im probably f**ked up in the mind but thats what i think)
By the way, shes only cheated once and shes promised that she would never cheat again. Making a mistake once isnt that bad is it?

But honestly, for me, Utada is a decent person to idolise or admire as shes successful and has a really fun personal life,well at least thats what i believe.

There is also one more thing i admire about her. It is how open she is about stuff. Evidently, she shares most of her personal things with everyone. Shes even got guts to say she has cheated on someone. That definetly deserves some credit. Even im trying to become open and honest about stuff and let me tell you, its bloody hard to say things like that in front of everyone.
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Posted on: 2009/4/21 2:41
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  •  Hikki101
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eni-san wrote:
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BokuWaDevil光 wrote:
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catseye528 wrote:
if any of you had listened to Exodus, you know she cheated already... Track 6 Tippy Toe anyone...


Tippy Toe was not about her cheating, it's about her being the mistress and fooling around with a man who is married with a family. The only song that she stated she cheated was 'Come Back To Me'

My personal opinion, everyone is taking this a little too seriously. I mean yes cheating is a vary bad thing and it should never have an excuse, but if we was to deny and not accept someone who cheated, we'd be denying half of the world. Utada is just women, a human, we should just listen to the music and not care what she does. I' pretty sure you've all done something that someone would say it's wrong, right? that's the point I'm coming down too, we all make mistakes, just because she's a celebrity doesn't mean we should hate/love her for them, and pay more attention to them.


totally right.

this is weird, but i was looking at this thread earlier and thinking about how to a small extent she could be singing CBTM to not just the person she cheated on, but to her fans who just found out this truth as well. you could say that she's telling her fans to "take it easy" on her, to "come back" to her music regardless of her past.

it's a serious stretch, i know, and you're probably looking at this message right now and thinking i'm crazy. but it makes sense in my mind both ways. i don't know why lol.

bottom line: no matter what she's done, realize that she's human, just like us, and makes mistakes, just like we do. it should make everyone happy, in a way, to think that we all have that in common with our dear hikki!


Yeah, totally, like i said before ppl who lose their respect for Hikki now because of this, who cares about u?? U think that Hikki's a goddess?? She's human, so she makes mistakes sometimes aka she's not perfect... but she realizes her mistake and feels sry about it. Yes, cheating is bad no matter wat, but come on, take it easy on Hikki
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I think people should stop taking this so seriously and actually shut up about it. This happened some time ago and I'm sure Utada has made up for her mistakes to that person, so who gives a fook? We're hear to enjoy her music and not critise her personal life when there really isn't anything to critise.

She cheated yeah, she knew that she had done wrong and her fixed the pieces, that's it all done and finished. And people critising her for liking alcohol, what the hell? She likes alochol, it doesn't mean she has to get absolutely hammered constantly or she HAS to have a drink every night or she won't be able to go on. I like alcohol, but I hardly drink it. There's a difference between liking alcohol and being addicted to it.

People should stop imaging Utada as a goddess, cause she ain't one. Neither is any other person, she's a human being just like you and me.
Posted on: 2009/4/21 2:51
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