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Re: Utada deserves more from the United States
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Davey I agree as well. I think both albums should and would have been bigger with proper marketing. Even a collaboration or two. (Coulda shoulda woulda, right?) Still in all, with the success she had on a small scale, considering the lack of promotion she'd probably be happy with what she has.

I know for a fact we had to have made an impression upon her at the shows. It should be clear to her that she has a rather large fanbase in America, and that was just PART of it. (There were people who wanted to go, but couldn't afford/wasn't in time, or a combination of the two.)

One thing I've noticed about Utada is that she's a timid peson for the most part.

[rant]Even her more "adult" lyrics are like...adult for early 90s or 80s music. Which is why I didn't understand some of the reviews about her "whoring herself out in music and lyrics". (No comment since Sade was more sexual than that and people LOVE Sade and see her as classy) Muaic has been far more suggestive even in the 70s than Dirty Desire and that ONE line in Automatic which obviously they didn't catch the word play with. *rolls eyes* [/rant]

Anyway....sorry about the rant. She doesn't do a lot of interviews, for one. Most Artists appear on this show and that show, they not only perform but sit and talk. Some of them do like random autograph sessions. I think that has a lot to do with how she sees herself. She's humble to say the least. Meek in many ways as she doesn't see herself as popular or a star. I personally like that about her a lot.


Those steps alone would have boosted her album sales up. Like Davey said...hustling. It's the hustle up to the release. A few weeks after the release,then you relax for a few months and you get the tour dates planned. After you get about 3 singles out, you announce you're going on tour. Wait a little more, and then go on tour. Make sure you show up at like MTV, BET, VH1, Fuse, or whatever TV station at least once. Show up or call in to a radio station or two. Now this can be done with ease because you make one appearance and you're good. It's not like you have to do a WHOLE bunch of work.
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Posted on: 2010/2/18 8:59
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I agree with yodilt. Utada has some amazing potential, but she really needs to hustle. I think perhaps her almost overnight success in Japan and her continued super stardom there may work as a disadvantage to her. She doesn't know how to go out and promote albums like crazy. She was in school for most of her early career, so the label did it all. Things are different in America, she needs to really get out there and hustle. Of course, that is nothing without backing from fans and from the label.

It often feels like Utada herself is rather unsure of how much success she wants in America. She just doesn't seem to have that insatiable hunger and drive compared to someone like Lady Gaga.

By the way, I'm totally not bashing Utada. I love her music and everything, I'm just trying to be as honest as I can.



I SO totally agree with this.


I think she's mentioned it at some point that she's never really had to work hard and promote. I guess she's realized that she didn't like it that much (lol). She'd rather stay behind the scenes, really.

I wish for her success but it's okay if she doesn't have it if that's not what she wants. Maybe she just wants to be acknowledged more, not as a singer only but as a musician; composer, writer and producer.

I'm sure she's happy that she's managed to fulfill both her dream of performing at small places and also her fans' wants!

(I haven't fulfilled MY want of seeing her live yet, not that I like going to places with crowds..>_>;)
Posted on: 2010/2/18 8:12
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I agree with yodilt. Utada has some amazing potential, but she really needs to hustle. I think perhaps her almost overnight success in Japan and her continued super stardom there may work as a disadvantage to her. She doesn't know how to go out and promote albums like crazy. She was in school for most of her early career, so the label did it all. Things are different in America, she needs to really get out there and hustle. Of course, that is nothing without backing from fans and from the label.

It often feels like Utada herself is rather unsure of how much success she wants in America. She just doesn't seem to have that insatiable hunger and drive compared to someone like Lady Gaga.

By the way, I'm totally not bashing Utada. I love her music and everything, I'm just trying to be as honest as I can.
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Dude...finding an Utada CD was hard as freak. Especially when they shafted you on the "pre-order" thing. Exodus was the same way.

BoA's CD was harder to find, actually, >_<

The marketing sucked majorly for the CD's -_-


I actually bought 2 copies from Best Buy and they were readily available. I was so excited to buy her CD from a store and that I didn't have to buy it online. It's such a different feeling! I've never seen TITO at Borders but I did see it as the featured CDs at Fry's, an electronics chain store that's slightly smaller than Best Buy.

btw, my mom ball room dances and she told me they played CBTM. I guess they play it so much that she even sings it. And of course, I do put the CD in her car. lolol
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Dude...finding an Utada CD was hard as freak. Especially when they shafted you on the "pre-order" thing. Exodus was the same way.

BoA's CD was harder to find, actually, >_<

The marketing sucked majorly for the CD's -_-


Yeah..i agree lol i guess the marketing sucked for both
but at borders where i live they were playing this is the one and had it in their featured CDs area lol but then again thats just about the only place where i saw, TiTo, the other time was at Barnes and Nobles...But BoAs album wasnt even in stock in almost every store i checked, and i had to order it from this music store
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Dude...finding an Utada CD was hard as freak. Especially when they shafted you on the "pre-order" thing. Exodus was the same way.

BoA's CD was harder to find, actually, >_<

The marketing sucked majorly for the CD's -_-
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lol looking at those numbers makes it seem as if she has had pretty big success here
Do you know how many albums tito has sold so far as of now?


I've been looking everywhere for that info but I simply can't find it... the best I can do is May 2009 right after it was released physically; it had sold about 16,500 copies (300,000 internationally), pretty lame compared with Exodus' 55,000. It's weird because she released it digitally almost a month before the physical album came out, so I don't know if both of those sales went into that number...

But BoA's english album only sold about 11,000 copies in that same time period.

Here are some albums that had similar first-week sales:
Vanessa Carlton, "Heroes and Thieves"
Sara Bareilles, "Little Voice"
Katharine McPhee, "Unbroken"
Brooke White, "High Hopes and Heartbreak"

So I'd put Utada on the D-List, maybe even the C-List XD


lol umm 16500...yeah that isnt so great but didnt exodus only sell what 10,000 in its first week so, maybe tito has sold around 55000 as well or maybe more but i knew BoA's sales wouldnt be so great as the album CDs were barely stocked in stores, and i didnt really like her english album
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山本_passion wrote:
lol looking at those numbers makes it seem as if she has had pretty big success here
Do you know how many albums tito has sold so far as of now?


I've been looking everywhere for that info but I simply can't find it... the best I can do is May 2009 right after it was released physically; it had sold about 16,500 copies (300,000 internationally), pretty lame compared with Exodus' 55,000. It's weird because she released it digitally almost a month before the physical album came out, so I don't know if both of those sales went into that number...

But BoA's english album only sold about 11,000 copies in that same time period.

Here are some albums that had similar first-week sales:
Vanessa Carlton, "Heroes and Thieves"
Sara Bareilles, "Little Voice"
Katharine McPhee, "Unbroken"
Brooke White, "High Hopes and Heartbreak"

So I'd put Utada on the D-List, maybe even the C-List XD
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lol looking at those numbers makes it seem as if she has had pretty big success here
Do you know how many albums tito has sold so far as of now?
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Look at these facts:

CBTM: Top 100 on iTunes pop songs chart, #5 on Billboard club play chart, #53 on Mediabase, played on Z100 (the biggest radio station in America), iTunes free video of the week

TITO: #2 on iTunes pop albums chart, #18 on iTunes overall albums chart, #69 on Billboard, #6 on Heatseekers chart

Dirty Desire: #16 on Billboard club play chart and (probably) still climbing

Tour: sold out save for one or two venues, possible DVD in the works

If you didn't know how famous she was in Japan, you would look at that and say "wow, that person is pretty big." Sure those numbers could all be higher, but come on, I think we're all being a little idealistic. Obviously she's not as famous here as she is in Japan, but she has definitely had success here!
Posted on: 2010/2/17 21:31
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