Oh Canada! Oh Canada! It's time to show why you're the best hockey country in the world. Sidney doesn't have to do well for Canada to win..Is Roberto Luongo starting in goal today or is Marty Brodeur? Canada has to contain Brian Rafalski who tore them up with a hatty. Do that and hold Jamie Langenbrunner and Zach Parise then it's only time until the Canadian “shark line” (Dany Heatley, Joe Thornton, Patrick Marleau) score on US goaltender Ryan Miller.

Finland get the bronze medal after beating Slovakia 4-3 “Kipper” looked more sound after allowing 4 in the 1st period against USA. Olli Jokinen scored the winner. Slovakia had a great chance with a very late powerplay, but the fins attacked dangerous scorers Marian Gaborik and Zdeno Chara then Valterri Filippula netted the empty netter to seal the deal. Legend Teemu Selanne played his last international game and got a medal, kudos to him. Great day it's going to be.

You know I will be routing for the Canadian men?s team who are desperate to avenge their defeat by the United States ?.


The Canadian Hosts carry the hopes of a whole nation into the finals ?.20:15 GMT?.to aid the Canadian Team you must now join me in the spirit of the powwow, I know Canada are in with a shout here because I have felt my nose twitch at the aroma of a virtual bannock as the Squamish residents will be gathering to cheer on the Canadian Ice Hockey team ?bring it on?.

Sidney Crosby said: "I don't know if you need revenge when you are in the final, you probably don't need any more motivation than that."??Now after me ?
Let get in the mood ??


By General Custer's last stand
You know they killed every man
Although they gave all they could
The odds were misunderstood
Their feathered headress has always amazed me
Although I'll admit I'm a pale face.

I never doubted before there'll be an Indian War
I never doubted before there'll be an Indian War
Well
General Custer said
don't be afraid
'Cause the indians won't fight 'til day break
Ah
ah an Indian War. Ah
ah an Indian War. Ah
ah an Indian
Old Sitting Bull said
we won't take a chance
'Til the cavalry hear of our war dance.

I never doubted before there'll be an Indian War?.


Now no disrespect here ?.

Ok Kayoko, lets get one thing straight there are very few people I don?t get on with, Utadanet is the only forum I take the time to post in, if my memory serves me well there are only a couple of members I find particularly irritating, and when I hear banquets of bullsh*t I will challenge that and tell them so, the process is commonly referred to as freedom of speech, I tell it how it is with open honesty ?it?s as simple as that...

You know me well we have a laugh and a joke as I do with many others who share the same sense of humour, I have never been openly contentious with anybody and will apologise if rude?.now I hope we understand each other ?you are a very good friend ?

Philipa please..not this again please. We appreciate your opinion, but this is history after a couple of days..let's leave it at that please Philipa? can you promise me that one thing at the least please?

Anyways Korea has the best girl figure skater in 19 year old Kim Yeon Ah. Her gold medal was achieved in record form. Her total tally of 288 points was a record and her 18 point margin from the silver medalist was a record for highest margin of victory. Last time I checked, we had the 5th most amount of medals..not bad.. not bad at all.

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Don't worry, I have no intention of carrying out this debate with Pips. She clearly has her mind made up and no amount of numbers or statistical data is going to dissuade her from her opinion. I've seen her troll the forums before, I know how she can behave.

For anyone else interested, the information still stands. Please, read, educate yourselves. It's there for your consumption. :]

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Oh dear lord pips you are missing the point....Shurikid for the sake of the thread and our tempers let's live this subject alone.I don't want to strip it of any importance it is to the subject matter but I don't see this ending well.I apologize to you both for intervening but please....Let this for the moment.

Well my family is having a great time in Vancouver? just a very small minority of detractors waving a few placards?..

What?s the view like from California?..guess you?ll have to accept Martin Lukacs?s political opinion ..did you donate??.Martin likes gullible? ?.

Olympic Resistance is just another clueless political organization heading nowhere ?what have they achieved?.nothing ?..zilch ?.your statistics have no factual basis, just numbers ? I pour over government statistics daily at University ?. econometrics, statistical background, hypothesis testing, maximum likelihood estimation, and guess what ..all adds up to the same conclusion hundreds of millions of people glued to their TV?s the world over enjoying the Olympic ideal and occasion, Canada has put on a fantastic spectacle and has served The First Nations peoples proud ?you think for one minute I am going to take a political leach like Martin Lukacs on his word ?no you brought that nonsense?

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He actually cited several Native sources to support his opinion. Furthermore, the REALITY of how First Nations peoples are treated in Canada is NOT an opinion- it is a FACT; the poverty and health issues aren't things he made up to support his own political agenda, they're well known, factual problems that have a huge impact on the daily lives of First Nations peoples.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/sui_nati.htm

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/11/24/child-poverty.html

http://www.ofifc.org/ofifchome/page/notes.htm

And despite what the government has promised in regard to relieving these poverty related issues, there is NO effective government function in place to handle them. At all. The First Nations peoples have been abandoned by the Canadian system (which is not to imply that it was ever taking care of them). So, for heavens' sake, please do your research before making such senseless statements.

Also, www.no2010.com is not Martin Lucak's site; he simply wrote an article for it. The website is hosted by an organization known as Olympic Resistance which includes everything from anti-poverty & housing groups to environmental activists to First Nations people sick with the exploitation of their culture and land resources.

If you need an actual First Nations person to exemplify how much these people do NOT want the Olympics games to take place on their land, the first person I would bring to attention would be Harriet Nahanee, a Pacheedaht elder who fought against the Sea-to-Sky Highway expansion at the Eagleridge bluffs (an extremely sacred place for those First Nations people that has since been demolished in order to accommodate that expansion) and was sentenced to two weeks in prison despite showing symptoms of illness. Shortly after, she was hospitalized, and died of pneumonia. She was a representative of her people, so again, I ask you to do your research before making inferences about what the situation over there is. Keep in mind that British Columbia is composed heavily of unceded Native territory, which by Canada's own governing process makes it illegally occupied territory; the First Nations peoples are fully aware of this and I haven't heard of one (aside from the 4 Host First Nations, which as I stated are representatives of the government, NOT the Native peoples of that land) that has given permission for these games to take place; not that the Canadian government ever asked.

The Olympics are a practiced facade- they know how to make it seem like they have all the support, but if you actually knew of the costs it requires to actually host an Olympic event (and I'm not even talking monetary) I would hope you'd think again about why you support them. Consider the 1968 Mexico City Olympics, where over 300 student protesters fighting the Olympics were literally massacred days before the games started- a story that has never been given mainstream media attention. Consider that host cities for the games are known to suffer immensely negative economic impact; in Atlanta in 1996, over 30,000 impoverished citizens were displaced by the games, which is a low number compared with Seoul's 750,000 in 1988, which is yet minimal compared to Beijing's recent 2008 Summer games, which displaced 1.5 MILLION people. Vancouver's Winter Olympics aren't even done yet and homelessness has already risen dramatically; when Canada won the bid in 2003, homelessness was at 1,000- that number was bumped up to 2,500 in the lead-up to the Olympics and may be as high as 6,000 by the end of 2010. These are not opinions, these are proven statistics, so please consider them in your understanding of the Olympic games and how far you want to go in supporting them.

Kayoko must be on cloud nine after Kim Yu-Na?s (South Korea) claims Olympic gold after a perfectly executed free skate programme ...Wow Kim radiates a hypnotic beauty....

As for boycotting the games.... this is Martin Lukacs?s personal opinion and should not be presented as factual, after all he has no authority from anyone other than Martin Lukacs to represent the opinions of Canada Native Peoples in the first place..Martin is a political activist and how much weight one attaches to his beliefs needs to reflect this fact..

poor sven kramer and his ciach who led him into the wrong side >.> (skating for people who dont know)