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Uh, wut.
I never attempted to disassociate myself with my "actions and behaviour". I just don't think there's anything wrong with them. And just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I'm waffling. Perhaps you should grow up and get your accusations straight.
Yvliew never said he didn't expect people to be offended. He WARNED people not to view/participate in the thread if they WERE offended. The fact is, it doesn't matter if they're offended because they don't have to participate. They could have created a separate thread entitled "Hikki boobs fan club HATERS" and discussed their issues there. However, it's not for you or anyone else to make a decision for everyone based on your personal objections to something completely harmless. I could understand if the thread was conceivably hurting someone or threatening the well-being of another person, but it was just a boyish discussion over the sexual appeal of Utada Hikaru. For some it wasn't even that. I'm not sexually attracted to Utada Hikaru, or most women for that matter. I just think Hikki has nice boobs. What's wrong with that?
And don't pull out your three daughters like they have any relevance to this discussion. You're not getting sympathy points just because you've got kids. This has nothing to do with them. So what, I have a little sister. This doesn't affect her at all.

Try coming back with an argument better than "I don't like it and everyone should just agree with me" and maybe I'll consider your points of debate legitimate.

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Again, if he doesn't like it, he doesn't have to participate. His culture is apparently not my culture. I don't believe in the degradation of women or any sort of patriarchal domination, either: I didn't see any of that in that thread. Whatever the case, Swallowtail's opinions and personal feelings do not constitute grounds for the action he took. Is there an echo in here?

And, ironically, I haven't even seen any girls speaking out against this: not that it would make a huge difference, but really, it's ALL GUYS. I'm probably the most feminine person to post in this thread thus far, being bisexual and transgendered. So how about all you straight boys take yourselves and the horses you rode in on and drop this inane argument? You're not defending anyone- you're just trying to initiate your own agendas to defend values that aren't applicable to everyone and thus should not be interpreted as forum-wide standards of behavior. Live and let live, folks: your doctrine is yours and yours alone.

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