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Hikki Obsessed
Joined: 2008/4/29
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I love debates. Let's rock.
Quote: 1. This is the biggest Utada fansite with over 7000 members, there are minor but if the public sees this it may look bad on this credibility of this site Damned good point. No contest from me. But you should have perhaps stated this earlier. Quote: 2. I'm not thinking on one perspective only. That is quite an unfair point to make. You have changed the topic to from drooling over a stranger to someone drooling about a person that you care about. People don't think objectively when emotions are involved. Quote: Second : Lets say this girl is your friends and think about what i said earlier It is common for men to have sexual thoughts about their female friends. Quote: Third : Think as you were Teruzane Utada , does anyone of you ever think that thread also insult him since HIkaru were his daughter. This is hypothetical and a subjective question. Let's not presume to bring further WHAT IFs into the debate as it has no real world bearing. Quote: Fourth : Think you were on her side, she not consider that also a sexual harassment. Ask Utada. She may think of it as a compliment. She may hate it, she may think it's weird. I'm not her. Again, a WHAT IF statement. Harassment can also be defined as repeated unwanted sexual advances. No one is in the near capable position to do this to Hikaru. Quote: Sexual harassment not just physically , mentally but you can do that by words. None of the comments were ever meant to be addressed to her. It is not harassing in nature. Quote: Another point of view. Let say you and your friends in a cafe and saw a sexy girl in your perspective. And you guys talking about part of her body and etc ,what id this girl know and her friends will she just quiet and not consider that as sexual harassment. And trying to take different view she was your friends. Will yo stand still and do nothing. Women do that to men all the time. Likewise, the reverse happens too. Although your grammar has fallen apart and I don't quite understand what you mean. In any case, it can be taken as either rude behaviour or a compliment. It depends on the situation and the girl. Quote: And this time we were just Utada fans no more no less , have any one of you ever spoke in person to Utada and be her friends. What does being Hikaru's friend have anything to do with this? Sexual harassment is sexual harassment. Between family, co-workers, friends or strangers. But again - I don't see any harassment here. You use the term sexual harassment too liberally. It is a horribly subjective term in which it has no boundry for application. I can offer you, a fellow man, a cup of water and you can take me to court for sexual harassment and have a case. The point is simply this: beyond your first point, I really don't see any real reason to close the thread. Where does harassment come in? Has anyone pestered UH or made sexual advances or annoyed her in a sexual manner? Does anyone here even have the ability to see her in person to follow through with this said 'sexual harassment'. If you wanted to print off my picture and choke your chicken over it, that's your business. But so long as you aren't telling me about it, or bothering me about it directly - there's no harassment case at all. If anything, the thread was a good testiment to 'boys being boys' and was a blight on this forum's level of dignity. It was unbecoming and a bit slovenly. But you're making a big fuss over this. A line has to be drawn, a practical one. |
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