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Re: 'In The Flesh' - Chicago, IL! 2-Feb-2010
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Salomonis wrote:
I tend to think that 4Ivy's situation is different than just showing up trying to get in while underaged.

He HAD tickets to LA show and the flight was cancelled. IF HOB told him that his tickets would transfer for Chicago which had an age restriction while LA didn't, then HOB lied.

This is known as Aristotelian logic. It's rarer these days for people to think this way, and I wouldn't have known about it if I hadn't of graduated in philosophy. Basically speaking, tickets have an intrinsic value (that is if you have em you get in). If HOB said his tickets were good for Chicago and he couldn't get in, then the intrinsic value of the tickets has absolved. This completely defeats the purpose of transfering the tickets in the first place. Basically they cheated him.

But of course conditional logic dictates that nothing has intrinsic value. Value is dependent on the situation(it's relative). Technically the tickets were still good, but just not good for 4Ivy because he was 16. The law of 17+ supercedes the value. HOB didn't lie to him because HOB isn't responsible for the age of the owner, just the validity of the tickets as long as it follows the law.

Take your pick.
It's easier for me to see it from 4Ivy's perspective. A person's word supercedes written law because a person is living. This is the main reason I'm NOT a lawyer. Letter is given higher value than life. I get irritated thinking about it.

All that aside, they didn't card me when I ordered whiskey... TWICE!


Thank you for believing in me! ^^ Wow ~ Philosophy lessons! :D That's very interesting! ~
Posted on: 2010/2/9 1:19
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