Yea, i've heard many arguments of whether kyoukoushin or shotokan is better.. but fighting is fighting.. following one strict form in a fight is like being a rock. You have to adjust to the situation to survive. Of course if you're REALLY GOOD with your form/style, possibly a master, then maybe you would be okay. A master boxer definitely sounds dangerous to tangle with, even if he's only using his fists. Haha oh yea i know of lyoto! He was undefeated until he lost to shogun I hope he comes back though!